Apparently, if you believe @Oddest_Inkling, Charles Williams and C. S. Lewis went on a road trip on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. In case you missed it, here’s what CW tweeted out (plus a few interjections from his followers).
Road trip with C. S. Lewis. We argue about Romantic Theology for the first hour.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 24, 2015
Road trip with C. S. Lewis. He doesn’t drive. I drive with my head in the clouds.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 24, 2015
Road trip with C. S. Lewis. I say, “Let’s go to Avalon.” He says. “Sorry, old chap, I put it on Venus.”
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 24, 2015
I wish Tollers had come along. He’s a fluent little chap, contrast to Jack’s jovial bombast.But he had to do Father Christmas for his kids.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 24, 2015
Road trip with Lewis. There’s the Moon in the eastern sky. I say: “climax tranquil in Venus.” He says, “More of your damned obscurity!”
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 24, 2015
Lewis and I stop for tea at a pub. That is, he drinks beer (3 or 4 pints) and I drink bitter red wine. We eat bread. He makes a ruckus.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 24, 2015
@Oddest_Inkling Love this.
— Hanna (@hanna_1960) December 24, 2015
I chat up the barmaid. I’m not flirting, Jack: Romantic Theology is my way to God. But don’t tell my wife.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 24, 2015
Jack orders beef and an enormous side of chips. I don’t remember what I ate; perhaps a quick sandwich. I wrote a sonnet on a napkin.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 24, 2015
After bolting my tea, I begin chanting lines from Dante & Coventry Patmore. Lewis roars with laughter, mocking my accent & correcting lines.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 24, 2015
Leaving the pub, I kiss the barmaid and launch into inspired flight-of-speech. Jack cheers me on.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 24, 2015
I text Michal, “You are the sherbet of Allah & the cup he drinks it from.” Jack snores.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 24, 2015
I text Phyllis, “You are the sherbet of Allah & the cup he drinks it from.” Jack snores.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 24, 2015
I’m texting, talking, and waving my hands while driving. We swerve all over the road. Cars honk, and I drive faster.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 24, 2015
Jack and I have a poetry quotation contest. I win.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 24, 2015
Lewis says he used to be the best conduit for quotations — until I came. Then I far outstripped him, in my superfluous lieutenancy.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 24, 2015
Road trip with Lewis. He wants to rent rooms in a pub tonight. I say I can drive all night; I never sleep anyway.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 24, 2015
I heartily recommend @Oddest_Inkling, in particular tonight. He appears to be drunk tweeting and it’s awesome. Merry Christmas to all.
— Dave Eden (@tarwathie) December 24, 2015
Road trip with C. S. Lewis continues. Planning our King Arthur epic. Calling Tolkien all evening to get him to join. Emailed Barfield.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
King Arthur epic with Lewis. I’ll write poetry; he’ll write prose. Tollers will make languages & maps. Barfield will — dance it? #eurythmy
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
@tolkienprof Did you see that C. S. Lewis & @Oddest_Inkling are on a road trip? They're planning an Arthurian epic!
— Sørina Higgins (@SorinaHiggins) December 25, 2015
Hoping it's not gauche to say it so plainly, but you are nailing this anachronistic folk re-creation. Most amusing!
— Dave Eden (@tarwathie) December 25, 2015
Lewis, Tolkien, Barfield, & I will collaborate on the most celestial Arthuriad ever. #RoadTripInspiration #BunchOfBandersnatches
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
Our Inklings Arthuriad is going to be AWESOME. I texted Michal about it. She said it sounded lame. She is a cold rain on a cloudy day.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
Nearly ran over a cat. I was gesticulating to Lewis, describing my gynocomorphical map. It’s HAWT, I say. Keep hands on the wheel, he says.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
@Oddest_Inkling Hehe. He said “gynomorphical.” Hehe.
— Ed Powell (@DrEdPowell) December 25, 2015
@DrEdPowell @Oddest_Inkling I know what you are thinking.
— Sørina Higgins (@SorinaHiggins) December 25, 2015
T. S. Eliot texted: “Are you on a road trip, or a pub crawl?” I texted back: “I’m with Jack Lewis. Everything is a pub crawl.”
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
Also, the evening was spread out across the sky like a patient anesthetized upon a table. Just so you know, Tom. Jack disagrees.Of course.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
If you aren’t following @Oddest_Inkling right now, you’re missing out on some #arthurian genius/madness.
— TTR- Morgan Z Sowell (@TheTableRound) December 25, 2015
Look at all these strip malls & pawn shops, I say to Lewis. Eliot was totally right: it’s a Waste Land. Dry leaves & dead roses & all that.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
I want T. S. Eliot to join our collaborative #Arthuriad. Lewis refuses. But he doesn’t even know what a hashtag is, so. #dinosaur
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
“Way too much Jessie Weston in Eliot’s view of the Grail,” Lewis says. “Not enough of me in it,” I agree. #humblebrag
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
“And too much James Frazer,” Lewis goes on. “I thought dying gods were totally your thing,” I say. #RoadTripTalk #arthuriana
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
Road trip with Lewis: 1st night. We argue over music. I want Gregorian chant, Lewis wants Wagner. Parsifal? He has a point.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
Surprised Jack Lewis didn't make @Oddest_Inkling put in Sigur Ros. He always liked that Nordic stuff.
— Andrew Rasmussen (@andysrasmussen) December 25, 2015
We make a spotify playlist with both Wagner and Gregorian chant. Medieval or Modern, the principle’s the same: it’s sublime. #RoadTripBliss
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
Road trip w/Lewis: midnight. His sentences get shorter & more concrete. Mine get longer & more abstract, labyrinthine with the esoteric.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
@Oddest_Inkling best tweetstorm.
— Matt Kirkland (@matt_kirkland) December 25, 2015
Argument: Are the Arthurian legends primarily optimistic (Lewis’s position) or pessimistic (Tolkien’s)? What do you say? #RoadTripTalk
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
@Oddest_Inkling what was Charles Williams' view? Must admit found his Arthurian poem hard work.
— mogg morgan (@ombos) December 25, 2015
@Oddest_Inkling Pessimistic. Camelot was unstable against external and internal perturbations.
— Calvus Virginicus (@virginicus) December 25, 2015
@virginicus @Oddest_Inkling Doesn't the Grail indicate there is hope?
— tom hillman (@alas_not_me) December 25, 2015
@Oddest_Inkling Pessimistic (but not without a note–albeit faint–of hope)?
— Herschel Neal (@hnealiii) December 25, 2015
@Oddest_Inkling Pessimistic. Long defeat. This is a fallen world.
— Dave Eden (@tarwathie) December 25, 2015
I say King Arthur balances Via Negativa (Arthur’s absence, loss of Logres) w/Via Affirmativa (Achievement of the Grail) #DeepNightRoadTrip
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
Road trip with Lewis. I’m just waking up. We wander away from King Arthur, start planning Christmas plays. I’ll ask Sayers to write one.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
@Oddest_Inkling Ah, Dorothy Sayers, perhaps best known for her Peter Wimsey books even though she wrote far more…
— Bruce Mohler (@Tomasthanes) December 25, 2015
I’ve got it! I’ll write a Christmas play with 3 kings who are also Internal Pursuits and External Pursuits and The Core of the Apple. Obvs.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
Road trip w/Lewis. He’s been snoring for an hour. I pull over at an all-night roadside cafe for tea & cake.I call Michal, tell her my ideas.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
I call Michal back, wish her and the boy Happy Christmas. The coat I bought her on Amazon didn’t arrive in time.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
A merry Christmas to all & to all a good night! (You too, road-tripping Charles Williams.) @Oddest_Inkling
— Hanna (@hanna_1960) December 25, 2015
@Oddest_Inkling Be sure to at least get a review by Auden.
— Dave Eden (@tarwathie) December 25, 2015
Road trip with C. S. Lewis continues on Christmas Day. We stop at a chapel for early communion.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
. He walks out & slams the door when the organ is too loud. I am astonished by the Mystery of the Eucharist.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
I text Michal: "All I want for Christmas is you."
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
I text Phyllis: "All I want for Christmas is you."
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
Anne texts me: "All I want for Christmas is you."
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
Lois texts me: "All I want for Christmas is you."
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
Lewis asks what's going on. I say, "It's complicated."
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
Hey, @LeVostreGC! I hope you had as much fun on your road trip with Dante as I am with Lewis.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
On the road again. Lewis keeps playing Holst's "Jupiter" over and over.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
In jolly Christmas spirit, Lewis raves about how he loves "The Place of the Lion." You know there's an Ebook on Amazon? #lastminutegift
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
@Oddest_Inkling @SorinaHiggins Some of the early Kindle versions of "your" books had lots and lots of formatting problems. Newer better.
— Bruce Mohler (@Tomasthanes) December 25, 2015
In return, I compliment his "Allegory of Love." But my novels make better Christmas presents. #lastminutegift #humblebrag
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
Road trip with Lewis. We stopped for lunch and ate kidneys enclosed, like the rich man, in their fat.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
@SorinaHiggins @Oddest_Inkling is it a Dantean journey,
— Brenton Dickieson (@BrentonDana) December 25, 2015
@BrentonDana @SorinaHiggins @Oddest_Inkling With Lewis as Vergil,
— tom hillman (@alas_not_me) December 25, 2015
@alas_not_me @SorinaHiggins @Oddest_Inkling No problem then. For Williams, every woman was Beatrice.
— Brenton Dickieson (@BrentonDana) December 25, 2015
@Oddest_Inkling @SorinaHiggins Some of the early Kindle versions of "your" books had lots and lots of formatting problems. Newer better.
— Bruce Mohler (@Tomasthanes) December 25, 2015
At Christmas, we worship the Man who said, "I came down from heaven," (John 6:38). @Oddest_Inkling pic.twitter.com/1dG1u9n8pG
— Jerry A. Johnson (@DrJerryJohnson) December 25, 2015
@Oddest_Inkling There's an ebook version available on Amazon Canada: https://t.co/jgiY14odli
— Bruce Mohler (@Tomasthanes) December 25, 2015
@Oddest_Inkling It's still available on Amazon in hardcover or paperback (both used). https://t.co/0tkPLkjFBe
— Bruce Mohler (@Tomasthanes) December 25, 2015
Road trip with Lewis. He keeps admiring the displays of Christmas lights; I can only see a vague blur. #myopia #MysticalVision
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
@Oddest_Inkling I've been worrying about the driver's vision.
— Michael Paulus (@mjpaulusjr) December 25, 2015
I know the feeling, Chuck. #BlindAsABat https://t.co/QtxyEisk1F
— Hanna (@hanna_1960) December 25, 2015
@hanna_1960 Shall we substitute our sufferings for one another's?
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
@Oddest_Inkling I honestly do not know how to respond to that.
— Hanna (@hanna_1960) December 26, 2015
Late afternoon on Christmas day. Long drive through quiet villages. The windshield wipers swish back and forth. We talk #Arthuriana again.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
Road trip with Lewis. Talking King Arthur. We argue about Empire and the White Man's Burden. #PostcolonialWilliams
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
Lewis thinks we have a missionary duty; I think we use the Other as self-critique. #PostcolonialWilliams
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
"Isn't your Space Trilogy Christian imperialism?" I accuse. "No," Lewis enthuses. "It's anti-Wellsian peaceful co-existence!" #RoadTripTalk
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
"And YOUR map!" Lewis shouts. "Naked woman tied down to the Emperor's pleasure"? "She's not tied," I say. "Although I wish she were…"
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
"And your rhetoric of empire!" Lewis roars. I swerve to avoid a cow. "You should talk!" Time to stop for coffee.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
"My landscapes are mythical!" I insist. "They're fantastical!" Fantasies, more like, but CSL doesn't need to know that.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
"It's symbolic, Jack," I coo. "Allegory, my arse," he replies. #NaughtyBrits #RoadTripTalk
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
"Who is that woman on your map," Jack asks. "She's Camelot incarnate," I reply, nose in the air. "Is it Michal?" he persists. #NotTelling
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
"We are inextricably involved in an Arthurian world," I insist. "It's figure is impressed upon our landscape." Jack nods. #score
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
"Did you know I predicted the 2008 financial crisis in one of my 1938 poems?" I ask. Lewis harumphs. But it's true.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
Road trip with Lewis. Jack is grumpy that we're missing the #DowntonAbbey and #DoctorWho Christmas specials. I ask, "Doctor who?"
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
It's not imperialism, Jack. It's about kingship, statehood, empire, quest, conquest, consciousness, chivalry, and hierarchy! #RoadTripTalk
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
"Too bad Shakespeare never wrote an Arthurian play," Jack laments. "Lord Admiral’s Men performed five related to King Arthur," I say.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
Lewis believes that animals go to Heaven; does all the uneaten chocolate go to Heaven, too?
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
@Oddest_Inkling Only dark chocolate. #DarkChocolateLivesMatter
— Bruce Mohler (@Tomasthanes) December 26, 2015
Lewis says: "Chocolate is to die for. If you die for the chocolate, are you in a state of grace to go to Heaven?"
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
How did we get from King Arthur and Empire to chocolate? #RoadTripTalk
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
Anthroposophy and chocolate on toast.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 25, 2015
@alas_not_me @Oddest_Inkling Can't claim to understand Grail 100%, but don't think "all is rubble, but we still have hope" is optimistic.
— Calvus Virginicus (@virginicus) December 26, 2015
@virginicus @Oddest_Inkling Certainly not in the short run, but the grail is about the long run, a promise for humans as a whole.
— tom hillman (@alas_not_me) December 26, 2015
Road trip with Lewis. We play a game with road signs: How many different languages can we translate them into? Wish Tollers were here.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 26, 2015
Lewis says he's translating into Old Solar; I think he's fibbing.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 26, 2015
@Oddest_Inkling he always does that after the fifth pint
— tom hillman (@alas_not_me) December 26, 2015
@alas_not_me @Oddest_Inkling After 4 or 5 shots of Old Solar, I'm doing well if I can speak at all.
— Calvus Virginicus (@virginicus) December 26, 2015
@alas_not_me @Oddest_Inkling Really? What should I read to find out more along that line?
— Calvus Virginicus (@virginicus) December 26, 2015
@virginicus @Oddest_Inkling My impression just comes from reading about Arthur and the Grail, and from consideration of what the grail is.
— tom hillman (@alas_not_me) December 26, 2015
@virginicus @Oddest_Inkling plus I've watched Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade many times.
— tom hillman (@alas_not_me) December 26, 2015
@alas_not_me @Oddest_Inkling 'You call /this/ archaeology!?'
— Calvus Virginicus (@virginicus) December 26, 2015
@virginicus @alas_not_me "The Inklings and King Arthur," edited by @SorinaHiggins, of course.
— The Oddest Inkling (@Oddest_Inkling) December 26, 2015
@Oddest_Inkling @virginicus @SorinaHiggins of course.
— tom hillman (@alas_not_me) December 26, 2015
@Oddest_Inkling #RoadTripTalk #KingArthur optimistic or pessimistic? “Es irrt der Mensch, so lang er strebt.” And yet he must strive.
— John W Kennedy (@john_w_kennedy) December 26, 2015
@Oddest_Inkling of the ones I'm familiar with as a child I'd have to go with Tolkien.
— Victoria A. Jeffrey (@victoriascribe) December 26, 2015
@Oddest_Inkling All animals? Lewis picks out those whose souls are awakened by loving contact with humans in his books.
— Fran at AFI (@FranatAFI) December 26, 2015
I would tend to agree with the Imperialism aspect. Lewis was better in the Nanian books. https://t.co/gO1Rbj5KMV
— Richard Johnston (@RichardJohnsto9) December 26, 2015
@Oddest_Inkling I think they're essentially tragic socially but spiritually optimistic.
— Richard Johnston (@RichardJohnsto9) December 26, 2015
And this is why this blog is one of my favorite things. Brilliant.
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Oh, that’s just bloody brilliant…!
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Love these!
Tweet: “Argument: Are the Arthurian legends primarily optimistic (Lewis’s position) or pessimistic (Tolkien’s)? What do you say?”
The Arthurian legends inherit the Prophets more than the Tragedies. But now I’m wondering, was their ever the notion of ‘promised restoration’ in the ancient tragedies? I don’t think so. I know in Eden the promise “her seed will bruise your head” marked the beginning of an optimistic tradition that was taken up in the Prophets. It really takes off beginning with Samuel, the idea of an “anointed one” who will always rise to bring justice order and peace. Then once you get to Daniel, now it transcends optimism! “In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which will never be destroyed, and that kingdom will not be left for another people; it will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, but it will itself endure forever.” Because the grail is forever, and Christ is the King of kings, it is impossible to call the Arthurian legends pessimistic. The question then is are the Arthurian legends ‘Christian’? Well, the grail tradition certainly is.
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Eric Voegelin is very interesting about the Tragedies in The World of the Polis (Order and History, vol. 2), about the Prometheus of Aeschylus in Science, Politics and Gnosticism, and in general about what can be achieved in the mutable world (and in various places about St. Augustine’s analysis in The City of God) – and the dangers (and, historically, horrors) of activist attempts to ‘immanentize the eschaton’. I can’t remember ever encountering him attending to the Arthurian and the Grail, though, or, for that matter, Virgil.
(Somewhere or other Williams writes interestingly about the impossibility of ‘tragedy’ from a Christian perspective. We probably ought to make the (post-)Leibnitzian ‘optimistic’ and ‘pessimistic’ a topic of discussion as well…)
What of Virgil (of whom Williams makes very interesting use in ‘Mount Badon’, for instance – which I can come back and legally quote in full – I think – in less than 24 hours)? How, for instance, does the Fourth Eclogue fit into the world of the Tragedies? – or relate to the Aeneid? (I ought to make another attempt to read Broch’s Death of Virgil…)
Tony Fuller was mentioning the novels of Robert Hugh Benson in the comments to the recent post on a review of the Grevel Lindop bio. Benson has strikingly produced a pair of alternative future histories in Lord of the World (1907) and The Dawn of All (1911). Lewis knew the second (but recalled not being very impressed). We don’t know if Williams knew either (in addition to the Benson novel The Necromancers, which receives positive mention in the Arthurian Commonplace Book). I suspect some debt of Pope Deodatus in the late Arthurian poetry to Pope Sylvester in Lord of the World. In any case, it might be interesting to compare the novels’ alternate futures with Williams’s innovatively imagined Parousiac context for the Grail in his late poetry.
In Williams, the possible achievement of the Grail in one way, is linked with something like the best of all possible societies being fulfilled by the Grail as preparation for the Second Coming of Christ – I’m not sure if we can say, how soon after, though my impression is, ‘very soon’. In Benson, I’m not sure how long the achieved society at the end of The Dawn of All is meant to go on (is it a preparation for a soon-to-follow Second Coming? – I’d need to read and brood: I don’t know it well enough). In Williams’s late poetry, this preparation for the Parousia is subverted, but the Grail is ‘achieved’ in a different, personal way, by the ‘advent of Galahad’ through (and despite!) his conception by adultery and fornication, and a Grail Mass or two involving two other knights in addition to Galahad. And – a big ‘and’ – there is also elaborated a ‘following of the way of Galahad’ possible for other characters in the story, contemporary with him, and, presumably, in the present and future of the end of the retelling – and (presumably) for Williams’s contemporaries and the reader, as well. (There may be a lot of creepy stuff in this elaboration, too – though, again, probably not only creepy stuff.)
In the dialogic tweets, Avalon in Venus is mentioned. I’m just paused in the midst of re-enjoying the last chapter of Perelandra, and commend it as very interesting in this context. I can’t remember how, if at all, the Grail gets mentioned in the Arthurian aspects of That Hideous Strength (which, however, presumably presupposes the last chapter of Perelandra). There may be an interesting implicit discussion going on between Lewis writing Perelandra and THS after having read Taliessin through Logres (and ‘Divites Dimisit’?), and Williams continuing to work on the next batch of Arthurian poems!
Another Biblical dimension possibly in the background struck me while writing this monstrously long comment… Lewis notes to Peter Milward the importance of the treatment of manna in the Book of Wisdom to the Grail. Might Williams in part be drawing on the idea of manna as a preparation to a proper establishment of Israel in the Promised Land, subverted as far as the ‘adult wilderness generation’ goes, as a model for the alternate futures of his late retelling?
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MacPhee awaking in the rumble seat in the chill of dawn, “Wheesht!”
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Another approach to the Arthurian matter are imaginations of how a historical Arthur (et suis), despite failure, might, by the successes preceding his death, have ‘achieved’ a better future with less warfare among and between Britons, Anglo-Saxons, and Gaels, and the conversion of the pagan English. Two works I have just enjoyed reading make different uses of this: John James’s last novel, The Fourth Gwenevere (posthumously prepared for publication by John and Caitlín Matthews), and Christopher Fry’s 1948 Canterbury Festival Play, Thor, With Angels. (I suspect John Matthews’ Song of Taliesin, upon which I am now embarked, is doing this in its own way, too.)
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Indeed. Some time ago I was reading through key sections of Gregory of Tours History of the Franks and I was struck by his pastoral attitude of “discipling brutes.” Gregory patiently but firmly stood up to the bestial nature of the newly Christianized Franks. He himself even displayed some traits and ideas that it would be easy for one of these post-Christian college brats to read and dismiss without seeing the big picture and the transformation of bestial societies over time due specifically to their Christianization. I’m not one of those who thinks the epithet “Dark Ages” has no meaning but I am firmly convinced that Europe would have been much darker without the new religion and that it might never have emerged from the Dark Ages without it. In fact, it is a rather frightening thing to contemplate. But as you mentioned in the other post, the relation of the eternal kingdom of Christ on earth to the temporal kingdoms who have come to name his name is ineffable. It has always been a mystery and shall remain so. At one extreme you have Christian theocracy and at the other the idea that there could never be such as thing as a Christian kingdom (temporal) which presumes to rule by divine mandate. And above them you have Daniel’s vision proceeding apace. The stone that struck the statue has somehow become a mighty mountain and is still in the process of filling the whole earth. And we have the promise that He will rule until all kingdoms have been subdued under his feet. Not in any dystopian perfect theocratic sense, but however it happens, all the beasts of the nations will eventually be tamed.
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@Sorina – Many smiles and chuckles – witty, erudite high jinks!
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I’ll ‘be-“Amen” ‘that (as we say in Dutch)! – perhaps adding ‘phantasmagorical’ to witty and erudite (it’s like C.W.’s poem about Shakespeare in a Tube station with cheap ed. of Sax Rohmer and a newspaper – but then worked out in detail, Inklings-wise)!
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This is McSweeney’s Internet Tendency for Inklings and it is sublime. That I’m coming to it nearly 9 years on makes it all the better.
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You are very welcome, transcending time and space!
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